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Question about pop eye

Post by SiennaBay on Sat Aug 21, 2010 8:56 am

My betta seems to have pop eye and this is the second day I've been treating him with Melafix. I also changed about 40% of his water this morning, and changed 80% yesterday. Here is what I don't understand. During the day, he has the rings around his eyes and his eyes seem slightly enlarged, but at night, you can barely see the rings and his eyes look fine. Then, in the morning, the eyes are enlarged and have rings again. Can anyone explain why this happens?
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Re: Question about pop eye

Post by 2tall on Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:36 am

I certainly can't explain it! The only seemingly rationality that comes to my mind would be the difference in the natural daylight as opposed to the artificial light at night! Take note and see if it starts at dusk and is more prevalent at dark.

Is the tank close to windows allowing more daylight? Just a thought!
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Re: Question about pop eye

Post by liz2 on Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:55 am

are you positive its popeye. When I was in a shop this afternoon we were looking at the bettas (of course) and some of them seem to have more prominent eyes. Whereas with popeye its just usually one eye...
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Re: Question about pop eye

Post by SiennaBay on Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:27 am

I assumed it was pop eye because when I bought the fish a month ago, there was no trace of the rings around his eyes.Then they gradually appeared plus his eyes look enlarged when the rings are there. They kind of come and go. Right now, the rings are very noticeable. When the rings are there, he barely moves his eyes. Yet last night, I could barely see the rings. When the rings go down, his eyes looked normal size and normal color and he moves them normally. The tank is under a window, but no light shines directly in the tank.
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Re: Question about pop eye

Post by 2tall on Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:35 am

The sunlight doesn't necessarily have to shine directly into the the tank as to have increased light as opposed to being in a darker corner. I'm suggesting moving the tank unless you start having a problem with algae. I'm just giving food for thought in the difference of the appearance of the eyes.
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Re: Question about pop eye

Post by liz2 on Sat Aug 21, 2010 2:13 pm

go on Google and put "Betta pop eye" in Images and see if it is the same just looked lots of photos
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Re: Question about pop eye

Post by silverrabbit on Sat Aug 21, 2010 3:46 pm

I've had a CT with an internal infection and both eyes became enlarged, so I think it can happen to both.

It won't go away overnight, keep up with treatment and you should see an improvement. I am not keen on Melafix with bettas but everyone has different experiences and have more luck than me with it.

I think the light is making you see the eyes differently
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Re: Question about pop eye

Post by SiennaBay on Sat Aug 21, 2010 9:59 pm

I did an image search on Google for betta pop eye and there are a couple pictures that come up that resemble my fish but most don't. The eyes aren't popping out real bad -- just a little. Enough for me to notice. Like I said, my fish did not have any rings around the eyes at all when I bought him. He was in very dirty living conditions at the store. According to an article I read on the Internet, rings around a betta's eyes show that the skin is stretching due to enlargement of the eyes (pop eye). I am new to bettas so pretty confused about what to do. I can't tell if the Melafix is helping or not.
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Re: Question about pop eye

Post by liz2 on Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:06 am

Can you put a photo up of him?
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Re: Question about pop eye

Post by silverrabbit on Sun Aug 22, 2010 7:13 am

I think an internal bacteria med will be better than melafix at this point. See if you can get some meds with antibiotics in them
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Re: Question about pop eye

Post by SiennaBay on Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:25 pm

Click link below to see a couple pics of Flame's eyes. Sorry they're a little blurred. He's always moving! (His tail fins look a little weird here but they are actually perfect -- just a bad angle.) His eyes aren't actually "popping" out -- they are just a little enlarged with pale rings around them. Look at my avatar pic on the left to see how his eyes look normally. Just a tiny bit of pale color above the eyes but no rings!

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Re: Question about pop eye

Post by 2tall on Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:46 pm

I have a c/t with a dark body and face like Flames. He has light colored rings around his eyes too! I wonder if the dark faced ones sometimes just have the rings. Either
that can be normal or I should be concerned about the eyes also. I didn't notice the rings actually went all around the eyes until I looked through a lighted magnifying glassjust now. I wonder what the odds of both of us having one with pop eye at the same time are?
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Re: Question about pop eye

Post by SiennaBay on Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:31 pm

Yeah, this is strange. I found some other websites that mention this problem. Some people seem to think it's normal; others think it's the beginning of pop eye. See links below. Has anyone else out there experienced something similar with their fish?:

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Re: Question about pop eye

Post by SiennaBay on Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:32 pm

You probably can't tell by my photos but the ring goes entirely around the eye.
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Re: Question about pop eye

Post by 2tall on Sun Aug 22, 2010 1:58 pm

It pretty much goes around the eyes of mine too!
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Re: Question about pop eye

Post by Taelin on Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:07 pm

I have a dark blue CT, and depending on where his eyes are looking, it looks like he has rings around his eyes. My Delta, Shadow, also has white rings around his eyes but I think that's due to his dragon scaling. From the pictures, it doesn't look abnormal to me...As long as your water is clean and he's eating and acting normal, I wouldn't worry too much...
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Re: Question about pop eye

Post by SiennaBay on Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:05 pm

Thanks to everybody for their help! I've been watching Flame the past few days and his eyes haven't changed, so it looks like his eye rings are normal. So I guess all is well! I've been changing his water more often just to make sure.
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Re: Question about pop eye

Post by 2tall on Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:16 pm

I'm glad to hear that as my dark one has them too and it hasn't changed.
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Re: Question about pop eye

Post by Mesatalia on Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:45 pm

Yeah and his fins are spread nicely. If it was borthering him, his body language would tell you something's wrong.

He's a beauty. I'm thinking these rings give the appearance of a prominent eye, just an illusion of one. ^_^

He looks happy healthy!
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